Child abuse and discipline are not the same thing, yet our "political leaders" and media have twisted it to be. Parents and teachers are not allowed to do half the things they were when I was in school. We had less violence. Things started changing when kids were educated that no one could make them do anything they did not want to do. Kids mistook this to mean anything, like homework, housework, etc. and they could call to report their parents for "being mean" to them. Teachers can't do anything to jr. for fear of carry over from parents and from being sued. Then spring break and gangster videos started on MTV. "Family shows" from 8-10 o'clock have curse words and commercials showing more adult shows. Our problem is a lax culture that is too lazy to set good examples and family morals. Instead everyone wants to call these simple parenting skills too old fashioned.