It really is sad for BOTH the big 3 workers & retirees, but when a company goes bankrupt, unfunded retiree health care promises go bye-bye. AND THAT THE WAY IT SHOULD BE, because I, as a Privae Sector worker without any retiree health care DO NOT want (via a Bailout) my taxes to fund retiree health care for another Private Sector group --- autoworkers. BUT hang in there, the hundreds of thousands of retired (& to be retireed) big 3 workers who lose there coverage may BE JUST THE DRIVER NEEDED to jumpstart the dirve for universal coverage for EVERYONE.