
UPDATED: Chattanooga Mayor Collects Bottled Water For 'Give Our Georgia Friends a Drink Day'
Submitted by Joe Legge on February 26, 2008 - 4:55pm.
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Comments Below: 38
Give our Georgia Friends a Drink DayChattanooga's Mayor weighed in again today on the water issue, proclaiming Wednesday as "Give Our Georgia Friends A Drink Day."
The city solicited donations of bottled water today to send to Georgia. About two-thousand bottles of Tennessee "spring water" will be distributed tomorrow to lawmakers in the Peach State. An aide to the Mayor plans to dress in a Davy Crockett style coonskin hat and other apparel.
Mayor Ron LittlefieldMayor Ron Littlefield calls the move a jab, but no more ridiculous than Georgia's attempts to move its' border North. "You'll always have people that see the negative side of it but I've talked with a lot of friends in Georgia, and in the legislature and they think its funny, and its intended to be light spirited and make fun of an issue we think is going nowhere," says Littlefield.
He believes Georgia would be better advised to conserve the resources they have, rather than an "ill conceived land and water grab."
Along with the water, a copy of the following tongue and cheek proclamation will be delivered to Georgia lawmakers:
PROCLAMATION WHEREAS, it has come to pass that the heavens are shut up and a drought of Biblical proportions has been visited upon the Southern United States, and WHEREAS, the parched and dry conditions have weighed heavily upon the State of Georgia and sorely afflicted those who inhabit the Great City of Atlanta, and WHEREAS, the leaders of Georgia have assembled like the Children of Israel in the desert, grumbled among themselves and have begun to cast longing eyes toward the north, coveting their neighbor’s assets, and WHEREAS, the lack of water has led some misguided souls to seek more potent refreshment or for other reasons has resulted in irrational and outrageous actions seeking to move a long established and peaceful boundary, and WHEREAS, it is deemed better to light a candle than curse the darkness, and better to offer a cool, wet kiss of friendship rather than face a hot and angry legislator gone mad from thirst, and Whereas, it is feared that if today they come for our river, tomorrow they might come for our Jack Daniels or George Dickel, NOW THEREFORE, In the interest of brotherly love, peace, friendship, mutual prosperity, citywide self promotion, political grandstanding and all that I Ron Littlefield, Mayor of the City of Chattanooga, Tennessee, Do hereby Proclaim that Wednesday, February 27, 2008 shall be known as “Give Our Georgia Friends a Drink Day”
Mayor Littleclass has shown
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on February 29, 2008 - 2:51pm.
Mayor Littleclass has shown just how little class he has. He will come begging for Georgia support for the Chattanooga/Atlanta high speed rail system again and his attempt to be funny will be remembered.
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Georgia may need that rail
Submitted by Gustless (not verified) on February 29, 2008 - 4:55pm.
Georgia may need that rail line but Chattanooga can do just fine without it.
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Perhaps the proclamation and
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on February 27, 2008 - 4:47pm.
Perhaps the proclamation and water delivery would have been funnier if it were only an issue of a few yards with brown grass. But lives and livlihoods in Georgia are being devistated. Not only was the "tongue in cheek" gesture ill-advised, ill-timed, and childish, it was amazingly callous, and disrespectful.
I think an official proclamation of an appology is in order.
Also, the border and the water are separate issues. How does stealing the territory of Georgia, transform into Geargia trying to steal part of Tennessee? If it was never rightfully, legally, or ethically Tennessee's to begin with, how could that be twisted into the exact opposite of reality. If the border is the 35th parallel, then that is where the border is.
Perhaps we should consult the native Americans about the border of the land that they lived on for 10,000 years before we got here and stole it from them.
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Atlanta Needs to be smarter
Submitted by Dumb Peanuts (not verified) on February 27, 2008 - 5:16pm.
Atlanta's city planners, govt officials, and citizens have themselves to blame for their water shortage woes. Smart planing, along with water reuse, better conservation, and sensible development is the solution to their problems, not stealing from other states. There are lots of ways they can come out of this mess, at this point none will be cheap, but perhaps the people of Atlants will get the sense to elect those officials smart enough to work through this instead of the same corrupt gang they keep re-electing.
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RE: ATLANTA NEEDS TO BE SMARTER
Submitted by Lori (not verified) on February 28, 2008 - 8:59am.
I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU ABOUT ATLANTA....BUT WHEN DID THIS BECOME ALL ABOUT ATLANTA! (This isn't all directed at your comment...all of the comments on here seem to say the same thing)
Yes our legislative body is headquartered in Atlanta. That is where all this originated BUT PLEASE REMEMBER that those suffering most are OUR farmers in South Georgia whose crops feed not only us, but you Tennesseans and others all across this great nation.
When did we become a country of states rather than a country of individual citizens all working toward the greater good.
Yes I know that is a ridiculously old fashioned notion, but that is what made us a great country, and the lack of its application today is also why we are no longer the strong, independent, self sufficient country we used to be.
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Good point. The time for us
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on February 29, 2008 - 6:27pm.
Good point. The time for us to remember that we are the UNITED States of America is now, before we lose the ability to communicate with each other. (Due to tippie-toe political correctness, and not insisting that people who relocate here of their own free will learn our language, and adapt to our culture. It's supposed to be a melting pot, not a giant plate with dividers for every culture represented on the globe.
It's not too far fetched to see a time in the not-too-distant future, in which our country fractures into 50 Country/States, much like the former Soviet Union has done.
How is it that some people can reply to a comment, and completely ignore the whole point?
If the border is at the 35th parallel, as congress set it, which it is, then which state has "stolen" from which?
And again. They are SEPARATE issues.
Perhaps Georgia should build dams on our streams that flow into the Tennessee, and just keep that water for ourselves, since our neighbors are being so neighborly.
If these comments are any indication, we'll all be in great shape when we have to reach a coorporative consensus on how to prevent the 1 million plus folks who say that suicide bombing can be justified, and want to allilate us all, from doing so.
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Kiss the mag-lev goodbye
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on February 27, 2008 - 12:38pm.
If this whole string of events foreshadows anything it is the conclusion of what cooperative relationship Chattanooga may have shared with Atlanta (and TN with GA). I think it is fairly safe to assume that Atlanta will not be looking to jump forward to any future (albeit far-fetched) plans for expansion of Chattanooga's airport or the mag-lev train proposal from Atlanta through Chattanooga to Nashville.
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Ah, in fact Tennessee may
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on February 27, 2008 - 12:21pm.
Ah, in fact Tennessee may have stolen part of Georgia anyways. In 1796 congress passed a bill that stated the southern border of Tennessee to be at the 35th parallel. This was never done and therefore the southern border of Tennessee is in the wrong place taking Georgias share of the Tennessee river. So i feel that Tennessee and Maylor Littlefield are all a bunch of fools.
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Tn. southern border
Submitted by Willy Hubert (not verified) on February 27, 2008 - 3:24pm.
I agree. In fact Ga. may just legally go for the jugular and show Ron how funny it is. This time the reality of the state line may get realized by both states.
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Border
Submitted by Zigger (not verified) on February 27, 2008 - 4:21pm.
Georgia has been through this once before with South Carolina and they lost that Supreme Court case too, just like they will lose this one.
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QUESTION SPECIFICALLY FOR TN RESIDENTS
Submitted by Lori (not verified) on February 27, 2008 - 11:01am.
who responded to this event by saying we should get or have access to any of "your" water. You don't have to reply, in fact, it would probably be better if you didn't.
Ask youself this:
If you lived in NWGA, far from Atlanta, but within 10 miles of Tennessee; so close in fact that you felt like Chattanooga was your "local city" because it was part of your day to day life; if you'd stop and help a fellow motorist stranded on the street without checking to see where their tag was registered;
What if the shoe was on the other foot? What if you needed water from us and we treated you this way?
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TN Sharing Water with NW GA
Submitted by Collins Parker on February 27, 2008 - 12:34pm.
I feel I should point out that Tennessee does actually share water with some northwest Georgia counties.
Tennessee American has signed deals with several neighboring water systems to provide emergency water.
For example, if my water company in Walker County runs out of water, they have a deal where they can buy water from Tenn AM.
There is nothing that says Tennessee American cannot sell water across the state line.
What they cannot do is sell it out of the river basin area (that rules out Atlanta or Dalton).
Trenton, Chickamauga, Ft. Oglethorpe & Ringgold are all part of the Tennessee River basin because Lookout, Chattanooga and Chickamauga Creeks all run into the river.
But Dalton, Chatsworth, LaFayette and Summerville are out of luck.
Tennessee and Alabama passed laws setting up a basin commission to regulate (restrict) water transfers out of the Tennessee River area.
So Dade County could get Tennessee River water now, but they can't turn around and sell it to Atlanta.
If Georgia were to have access to the River, they would presumably ignore the basin water commission.
So Dade county could then sell the water to whomever they wanted.
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what a role model for TN citizens!
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on February 27, 2008 - 9:39am.
If Mayor Littleman has the time to play silly games, then maybe they should find more work for him to do or cut his pay.
I doubt the border will never be moved and GA probably knows it won't. I think the whole purpose is to try get TN to help out their neighbor with a little water, which they have already refused to do. TN politicians showed how low and shameless they are when they bragged about how plentiful their water supply is at a time when GA was looking at possibly running out of water. They should grow up and have a little heart and see if there is some way that they can help. The water resources of this country belong to all people of this nation. I believe that TN should definitely use their resources to take care of their folks first, but when you have an abundance of water and a neighbor who needs help, you should see if there is a way to help them.
With everything else that is going on and our country being so divided on so many important issues, you would think that Mayor Littleman would not want stir up controversy on such a small issue. I actually feel a little sorry for people like him. His must be a lonely existence to do such a thing just to draw attention to himself. Maybe someone should send him a card so that he may feel happy and loved.
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Littleman??
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on February 27, 2008 - 2:36pm.
I'm sorry, who is this Littleman of whom you speak? Mayor Littlefield was actually doing something to help the citizens of Georgia, albeit tongue-in-cheek.
And I beleive that Georgia officials could be helping their people out a little more - Six Flags has announced that they will be switching some of their bathroom facilities to a more efficient toilet system which uses less water. They will be keeping all their water rides, and White Water will follow suit. Hello - when you are running low on water, you cut frivilous water usage out. We do not need water rides, we need actual water for Georgians. Try to help yourself before you complain about others not doing for you. I believe I am correct in stating that when times are hard, you do your best to conserve and save - not waste millions of gallons of water in some amusement park.
And correct me if I am wrong - but shouldn't this dispute have been an issue of change in 1818 when the border was being configured, and not in 2008 just because you want to take part of the Tennessee water system?
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You are correct in that
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on February 27, 2008 - 5:09pm.
You are correct in that water rides are a waste of water. It's a good thing that the folks in TN are such good stewards of our resources and that they aren't building any 14 acre water parks in East Ridge. Oh, wait a minute.......
"Littleman" was used because Littlefield's actions prove that he is just that based on his ridiculous stunt.
Regardless of what GA is or is not doing correctly, the fact remains that the shameless TN politicians want to brag about how plentiful "their" water is and make jokes when a near neighbor is clearly in a bind. Again, it just shows how little they are as people. Instead of making jokes maybe they could make some helpful suggestions....
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GROW UP MAYOR
Submitted by Tennessee resident (not verified) on February 27, 2008 - 9:22am.
I think the mayor needs to grow up. How childish can he get to spend the taxpayers money to send bottled water to Georgia. What message is this truly sending.
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Water Woes
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on February 27, 2008 - 8:24am.
As far as Georgians paying taxes so that Tennesseeans can get to "your stores (i.e. Wal-mart)," I think you've forgotten that all that does is bring money into your state (sales tax!.) Secondly, it's not like Georgians don't come to Tennessee to "our" stores. This was a comical reaction by the mayor to a rediculous piece of legislation out of the peach state. Tennessee has had the river, the land, and the border in the same place for over 100 years. The people that live along that border on the Tennessee side don't want to live in Georgia. It seems that Georgia's real problem needs to be with the states of Alabama and Florida, and with the Corps of Engineers. Hold onto your water and stop sending it down stream for some endangered fish. People are more valuable than fish anyday. Furthermore, Gov. Perdue has other options including activating a state militia to guard the water already in Georgia. Let him do that or file suite in federal court over water already there.
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I think you need to reread
Submitted by Lori (not verified) on February 27, 2008 - 9:38am.
I think you need to reread my comment. I said that my family and I spend a large portion of our disposable income in Tennessee. I never disputed that we contribute to your economy just like you do ours. NEVER.
I was responding to the comment by "GUEST" asking why TN was expected to share their resources with GA and I thought I made that clear. Of course, maybe that is you, since this one says "GUEST" too. I stand behind my comments, so I have no problem putting my name on them. I haven't said, done or intended anything malicious against anyone, so I have no reason to be ashamed of what I've said.
That is the crux of the problem with this whole stupid mess. Our legislators are unprofessional and irrational for bringing this up, joke or not. Your mayor responded childishly and unprofessionally as well. I go back to my first comment on this blog, CAN ANYONE IN THE RESPECTIVE LEGISLATIVE BODIES AND POLITICAL SEATS CONSISTENTLY BEHAVE IN A MANNER MORE MATURE THAN A 2 YEAR OLD????????????????
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Wish I lived back in Nashville...
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on February 27, 2008 - 8:10am.
Seeing stupid stuff like this makes me wish I still lived in Nashville. This SE corner of the state sure is "different" and not necessarily in a good way.
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whats with the schools?
Submitted by sarahbeth (not verified) on February 27, 2008 - 6:00am.
why is it that bradley county schools never closed!?
there is a huge virus spreading all over TN and they honestly need to shut down the school for at least 3 days to get the kids away from each other! I don't agree with the fact that they claim to be a safe secure inviroment when they are letting there students get severily sick then they get adjitated about how many children are out. I personaly think the matter needs to be addressed to keep all the children healthy.
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Stop develpement
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on February 26, 2008 - 11:33pm.
Since our neighbors in Georgia are short on water, why is Atlanta still being developed at astonishing rates? It seems to me, that the officials in office in the planning, and development boards should be questioned. These same officials only saw the dollar signs that come with the development of revenue from big corporations, and didn't figure that the resources could not support the increase. Now after 200 years, Georgia wants to move the state line to gain access to more water. The boarder should have been disputed then, not 200 years later. Fire all of the ignorant planning/development officials for new ones with brains, and stop the astronomical development of Atlanta. Your resources would go a long way.
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Georgia has river water all ready.
Submitted by Marlon Weldon (not verified) on February 26, 2008 - 11:21pm.
As far as having property rights on the river, Georgia is only 300 feet short of it now. There is a rather large waterway feeding the river at that point that back flows well in to Georgia. Any water pumped from here would directly come out of the river.
I would like to see the state line moved tho. It would be nice to be able to go fishing for $6 a year instead of the highway robery Tennessee charges.
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Great article
Submitted by Willy Hubert (not verified) on February 27, 2008 - 11:09pm.
Google Earth shows the line at its 35th parallel location
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In reponse to "I DON'T THINK SO"
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on February 26, 2008 - 5:48pm.
For the same reason us "Georgians" have to pay taxes to have the roads paved so you "Tennesseeans" can get over here to go to our stores (WalMart, ie..)
This whole thing is PETTY! If you don't want to share your resources with us, stay in Tennessee!
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I Dont Think So
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on February 26, 2008 - 5:01pm.
why do us chattanoogans have to spend our HARD EARNED MONEY on water for georgia????????? I am not givin nothin to nobody!
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Disappointed
Submitted by Angelia (not verified) on February 26, 2008 - 4:53pm.
I am disapointed with the lack of respect Mayor Littlefield has displayed. To use the Word of God as if it is a weapon against fellow citizens of these United States is unbelievable. Even in jest or maybe because it was, I assume, in jest shows his character and lack of respect to the Bible.
I too, am a Georgian who does not believe the actions taken by our Legislature was of any value. But please don't use what is Precious (The Bible) to attack your fellow man.
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IN RESPONSE TO AARON and GUEST
Submitted by Lori (not verified) on February 26, 2008 - 4:42pm.
First of all, how would you like to be held responsible for everything your legislators do? If we are going to lump all "Georgians" and "humorles" "thieves" without "honor", then that is the POT calling the KETTLE black given the recent TN Waltz investigations, Billy Long's indictment.....
If you live in a glass house, you probably shouldn't throw rocks!
How's that for a sense of humor?
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Don't let my fellow Georgians spoil the fun
Submitted by Aaron (not verified) on February 26, 2008 - 4:17pm.
The lack of water has dried up their sense of humor.
Kudos to Mayor Littlefield. A little bit of levity is most welcome in times like this.
Remember, this is an election year. After November 7, the state legislature will step back from demanding that you 'heartless' Tennesseeans let us siphon your water.
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Good for you, Chattanooga!
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on February 26, 2008 - 3:32pm.
It's obvious from the initial comments here that the folks in Georgia who want to steal Chattanooga's resources have neither honor nor a sense of humor.
Get over yourselves!
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One bad political stunt by
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on February 26, 2008 - 2:49pm.
One bad political stunt by the Georgia legislature does not deserve another stupid stunt by the Mayor of Chattanooga. Grow up and quit wasting our tax money on these useless shows.
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grow up
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on February 26, 2008 - 1:08pm.
Grow up Mayor littlefield.And to the Chattanooga Choo Choo you need to be spending your money on updates to the Choo Choo ,its the one that needs the help.
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Way to go
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on February 26, 2008 - 12:55pm.
Mayor Littlefield, Get over it with the high school pranks. Think of the example your setting, just imagine the media coverage across the US. What a great example! A little usage of the land won't hurt us.
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Littlefield Proclamation
Submitted by Lori Duckworth (not verified) on February 26, 2008 - 12:24pm.
Congratulations Chattanooga! Apparently you've elected a Mayor in Ron Littlefield that has solved all of your problems and you all now live in a state of nirvana.
I am sure that the tax money you pay was well spent for the hours, possibly days or weeks, that he spent working on this ingenious "proclamation" and water drive. I know your hearts swell with pride at his accomplishments.
As a Georgian living on the state line, I am not only insulted and offended by this action, but I am genuinely disappointed by the lack of respect for humanity displayed by this action. I never agreed with the steps the Georgia legislature has taken, I think it is silly as well...however now, I feel as if I must take a stand with them since Mayor Littlefield has now made this an "US" against "THEM" battle.
By the way my family spends at least 80% of our disposable income in Chattanooga)
I pray for you Chattanoogans that you aren't hit by any type of natural disaster anytime in the next 50 years. You'll be hard pressed to get any help from your "neighbors".
And to close I'd say: CAN ANYONE IN OUR LOCAL, STATE or FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS DISPLAY BEHAVIOR ON A CONSISTENT BASIS THAT IS MORE MATURE THAN A 2 YEAR OLD?
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Ignorance IN Politics
Submitted by A Georgia Resident (not verified) on February 26, 2008 - 11:57am.
In my opinion Georgia is wrong to try to move the state line as well as anyone is wrong to withhold water because of an imaginary line. But as I read a surgeon once said-when operating on a politician there is no heart and no brain but the head and ass are interchangable Mr. Littlefield.
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Georgia is just trying to
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on February 26, 2008 - 11:50am.
Georgia is just trying to get our river and our boundaries have been established for a long time. Georgia should consider how they do things. I think this is a good gesture it may not help a lot but it is something.
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Littlefields Little Gesture to Georgia
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on February 26, 2008 - 11:36am.
That is pure D Shenanigans. Also, it is in poor taste, considering how desperate Georgia is. Shame on you City of Chattanooga Administration. You showed exactly how you have NO HEART.
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How foolish can you get? If
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on February 26, 2008 - 10:42am.
How foolish can you get? If you want to donate water, how about sending it to the communities recently devastaed by the severe storms? Some hard hit areas in our own backyard will not be declared disaster areas because of economics and need our assistance.
Making this rediculous gesture to Georgia just gives credence to the embarassingly futile attempt by Georgia legislators grandstand moves.
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I live far away from either
I live far away from either state. From what I see on the news, Tennessee has been hard hit by the drought as well, and has imposed water restrictions. It seems to me that Georgia has tried to do a quick-fix with their water problems by employing a hard ball land grab tactic rather than asking Tennessee for whatever help they can give. Most people don't respond well to that kind of tactic. Keep in mind, too, that Tennessee has to take care of its own water problems, and may not be able to solve those of Georgia without putting their own people in jeopardy. Have you watched the TV show "Jericho"?