
What Are You MOST Concerned About In A Health Care Bill?
"Death Panels"
You should be ashamed Channel 12 for listing this so called "catgory" of concern. Have you guys even read the proposed bill? Did you guys previously work for the National Enquirer because that's where this type of "journalism" belongs.
Re: Death Panels
It is a "category of concern", at least in the House bill that was PASSED. It is no longer just proposed, it was passed with the provision for required end of life counseling. It has been taken out of the proposed Senate bill (after much protest). Anyone who has read BOTH bills knows this. Maybe YOU should re-read both bills.
End of life cousneling? You
End of life cousneling? You mean like hospice care? OH NO! Whatever shall we do?
Re: Death Panels
Have YOU read the bill passed (not proposed, passed) by the House of Representatives. The category that you refer to has been removed from the proposed Senate bill, but it is still in the House bill as passed. YOU had better do some reading yourself.
doctor reform
All of this stupid name calling and finger pointing is useless it solves nothing. This is the just of it there are some people like my own cousin who used the gov't systems to there advantage and then there are the one's who honestly need help. This is true for anything in life the fact is there are bad apples out there but they are the minority. I beleive that part of this reform should come down to doctors and hospitals lowering charges so it will be more affordable. What brought this to my attention was when I got my benifits paid page from my ins. the price they had to pay for a $125.00 test was $15.00! This blew me away the dr.s and etc. want to say they have to charge more because of the people who do not pay, the thing is more people would pay if they got same charges as the ins. companies or better yet the ins. companies had to pay what the oringal charges where. This is where the most reform is needed.
Health Care Bill
You failed to list the most important aspect of any health care bill: The need for a public option. Without public option, there can be no control of cost and eventually all citizens are left with is the status quo.
Thank you
From professional experience I can tell you, insurance companies do not care about your well being. They care about appearing to care. Meanwhile they skim larger profits from our hard work by exploiting our lack of public healthcare and using scare tactics to ensure everybody who gets a paycheck is "covered".
Americans recognize that fires are a social burden that anyone can be the victim of and the need to fund fire departments is not questioned. Why is public healthcare not recognized as something that is good for us all, the same as a public school system and public mail and public fire departments?
There is evidence insurance companies and those who profit from the status quo have invested money (lobbyists) to cover ground in government and are prepared to exert pressure on anyone who opposes them.
We can't imagine a system which does not continually demand more and more and give less and less because to us, it has always been this way. It will continue to be this way unless each one of us takes a stand at some point in a concerted effort to say:
- "I don't want to be broke if I get sick"
- "I don't want to go to jail because I don't have the money for an emergency room visit"
- "I don't want insurance, I want HEALTH CARE."
Obama is the Best President.
I can remember from Ike forward, and Barack Obama has to be the greatest president we have had in the white house in my life time. And yes I am a white man. Mr. Obama is trying to straighten out some of the mess of Big Oil, Texas Bush, Torture Cheney, and the so called WMD chasing Republican representatives that almost completely bankrupted American economy giving all our wealth to Iraq government for infrastructure.
But let the American people ask for some kind of help with health care and the first thing that bunch has to say is we can't afford it. Well let that bunch of loud mouthed politicans explain why we could afford a conflict that killed over 4000 of our troops and took billions of taxpayers dollars. Was it all for the greed of more oil?
It certainly was not for weapons of mass destruction.
Insurance companies would have you believe this health care plan will kill babies and eliminate all the elderly. And if you continue to believe all that the insurance companies paint as a rosie picture, at least you won't be voting for more money to stay in the working class people's pockets. I can understand if you are taking home 350 thousand dollars a year wanting a bigger tax break.
And Ray I suppose you don't know of any one who deserves any social security. And you have never seen an elderly couple who were trying to make ends meet existing on social security because they worked all their lives for a very meger wage with a company that never had any profit-sharing programs. You were probably born with a silver spoon and attended a private school. Not all of the American people are so fortunate.
Gov't
I wish someone/anyone could name ONE gov't run program that HELPED anyone, reduced taxes or reduced gov't influence/power over us THE TAXPAYERS. I for one am sick and tired of haveing things shoved down my throat. I have worked hard for the benefits I have thru careful job selection and educating myself about companies I intended to work for, yes I said work, which is what most people don't know the definition of. Some, not all, of these freeloaders wanting free healthcare don't deserve it. Why should I or any other taxpayer pay for someone that is either too lazy to work, or are here illegally. Doesn't make any sence other than the Dem's are looking for votes. WHAT A CROCK!!!!!!!!
And another thing, Why did I have to pay for your new car?
Why did I have to subsidize your over inflated home loan,
Why did some of these crooks walk away from the closing tables with thousands of dollars stuffed in their pockets, just so they could have their house forclosed on later???????
Why are the banks going to end up owning all these forclosed properties.
Why are the banks being allowed to hang onto the $750,000,000,000.00 of my tax dollars.
THINK ABOUT IT FOLKS, THESE ARE ALL OBAMA PLANS THAT WILL BANKRUPT THIS COUNTRY AND HE HAS BEEN IN OFFICE LESS THAN ONE YEAR.
MAY GOD HELP US ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ray has a point except...
I did the same as you, Ray, got an education (I'm an engineer), carefully chose my jobs, and paid for my benefits. When I became seriously ill from occupational lead poisoning, I thought that I was covered with workers comp and the long term disability that I had paid for. Guess what, Ray? When you need these programs...they aren't there for you. You know why? Because there isn't ENOUGH government intervention. UnumProvident does pretty much what they want and the corporations pretty much control whether or not you collect workers comp. I became permanently disabled and had to fight for years for any benefits that I have received.
So, I've got news for you, Ray. When you need those benefits the most...those benefits that you have paid for...you won't get them and then you will be wanting that free healthcare. Also, you already pay for those uninsured people through your benefits at work. All healthcare companies charge those who are paying almost a $1000/year to cover those who don't have insurance. In other words, Ray, you are already subsidizing free healthcare.
BTW, I now have Medicare which I am totally satisfied with except for how so called free enterprise i.e., letting all insurance companies get in on the Medicare bandwagon, caused our premiums to go up. I can say it is at least one government program that those who have it, don't want to see it messed with. The government can do some things right.
And those other things. The bank bailout WAS NOT an Obama plan. It was put in place by the Bush administration. As was the subsidizing of sub prime mortgages. Republicans AND Democrats sponsored the Cash for Clunkers bill. THIS IS NOT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATIONS "FAULT." It this kind of pointing the finger that does our country no good. We must, as Americans, work toward solutions. Making rash statements and casting blame will not get us anywhere.
And, quiet frankly, Ray, I don't believe that God will help us at all. It is up to each of us to help ourselves and others.
W. BUSH
Obama is trying to straighten out the mess that George Bush made. American let him get away with raping this country, thats why WE NEED GODS HELP!!! OUR LAST PRESIDENT RAPED YOUR POCKETS OVER AND OVER!!! Bush went from millionaire to elite billionaire in just eight years and didnt even have to sell Amway products! He went way past diamond if you know what I mean. AND YES GOD PLEASE HELP US! BUSH RAPED US! AS BAD AS BUSH TREATED US TAX PAYERS I AM SCARRED FOR LIFE AND ALL AMERICA SAT BACK AND WATCHED! HE QUITELY PASSED MANY WRONG DOINGS RIGHT UNDER OUR NOSES OVER AND OVER. THE FOUNDING FATHERS OF THIS GREAT NATION WOULD HAVE HAD HIM HANGED FOR THE BLOOD THAT IS ON HIS HANDS!!!
Reply to Ray
Ray, congratulations on commenting about government run programs. I'm sure you made this comment from your computer after watching stories on TV.
Hey Ray, your TV and your computer are powered by electricity. The power comes, for many people in this region, from TVA. And, pay attention to this Ray, TVA IS A GOVERNMENT PROGRAM.
So why people like you complain about everything, let's just hope there are committed individuals who seek to improve the lives of all people.
Stupidy
You my little minded friend don't have a clue. TVA displaced hundreds of law obiding citizens just so they could flood their homes and provide electricity for stupid people that don't know where to look for information. Yes I watch TV, but that is not where I get my info. You need to look back at gov't and really see what they have done to people.
All of the following is verifiable thru books and the Freedom of Information Act.
1. Your good government between 1945 and 1967 stood over 200,000 people out in deserts and on islands to explode atomic bombs near them just so they could study them or their bodies.
2. Five stories underground in Chicago at the Museum of Science and Industry there is a Hotes designed to protect and serve local Politicians in case of a nuclear attack. was finally closed several years after the cold war.
3. In Chicago your gov't put non lethal germs in the water supply of an 8 block area just so they could see how many people got sick.
4. Have you forgotten Ms. Prizzy's Boys?? The black men that your gov't infected with Syphillis and gave them sugar pills for treatment just so they could see what happens to someone infected.
I could go on and on but I would take too much of your time, seeing you won't believe these things anyway. Why? because you are too lazy to look this up for yourself
Gov"t (Ray)
Ray, there is some people wanting things for free, I'm not one of them I would love to be able to buy health insurance, they don't let people that have pre- existing promblems buy insurance beleive me I've tried. My sister a widow worked for years the place she worked shut down, right before she was diagnoised with a rare cancer , she pay's over $700.00 a mth cobra cannot get tencare because she draws too much , although the ones that can get tencare are ones that set home on their behind smoking their cigarettes and going to doctors getting their drugs to sell,but people that are really sick can't get help , she does'nt want a hand out neither do I I think we all should pay for health insurance , we also should be able to buy insurance not have our cancer or sickness held against us so insurance companies can pay their CEO 20 -70 million a year, agents $300,000.Insurances companies have got away with disrimination long enough!And as far as Obama ,BUSH and his high dollar republicans and the GREEDY insurance companies had already bankrupt this country , Obama is trying to clean up the BUSH MESS.
Obama has cravenly and
Obama has cravenly and brazenly decided to hold fifty million seniors hostage to his grand dreams of socialized medicine by freezing Social Security COLAS, guaranteeing higher medical costs for our most vulnerable citizens. Hopefully the American people will see this for the bald-faced power grab this truly is, and send Obama and his minions in Congress packing in the 2010 elections. SHAME, Sir, SHAME!
SSDI and COLA
Actually, the Social Security COLA was put into place in 1973. It is calculated in conjunction with the Consumer Price Index. If there is an increase in the CPI then there is an increase in SS benefits. Fortunately, if the CPI loses ground, SS benefits don't decrease. As you can see, the method used was put into place 35 years before Obama became president.
You know, you could encourage your representative in Congress...Democrat or Republican...to do something about it. If you don't, then SHAME, SHAME ON YOU!
Shame Sir Shame
You republicans must be walking around with blinders on , why do you think there is less and less of you now,because of all the harm you've done people cannot stomach it anymore , you care about nothing but yourselves and who you can keep in your pockets , I've got news for you and your big companies you've supported over the years ,instead of the people! You've broke the economy , you started the war, until people can't live anymore,we have nothing else you can take so you will have to fight amongst each other and leave us alone. And as for the american people yes we do see what is going on that's why in the 2012, it will again be a DEMOCRAT!
I EARNED what's in my
I EARNED what's in my pockets and intend it staying there. It's your boy Obama who's sending 40,000 more troops to Afghanistan, and I hope you're one of 'em!
Bush follower
why don't you just say " I hate black people"!
Jerk!
BTW, that's where we needed to be in the first place instead of where the oil is.
Re: Bush Follower
I have no problem with his being black. This country is full of many, many quality, productive and valuable citizens who happen to be born with black skin. Just like the many with white, brown, red or whatever color skin. All of them are priceless. My problem with Obama is that he is GREEN, in more ways than one.
Non-productive
The elderly & disabled (those on Social Security) may have been productive in the past, but today is what counts. Cut medical care and freeze benefits and these "drains" on society will croak faster and leave more for those who really deserve it. The ones who are already in lock-step and dependent on the government will be rewarded for being good little sheep.
Non-Productive
I sure am glad you do not have your finger on any nuclear buttons or cardio machines.
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I agree with you entirely
I agree with you entirely Ray, but you didn't go far enough! I am a Regan Conservative and believe in small goverment, a strong military and capitalism.
Neither republicans nor democrats have been looking out for the best interests of the American people in the last 20 years. There are many issues that I disagreed about with Bush's administration...his illegal immigration policy, his big spending, etc..but he did continue to keep our country free of further attacks.
My concern now, and most of you need to put aside your political differences, and wake up, is that this present administration is surrounding itself with radicals and communists. Obama says that he will transform our country. His words. He also says that you will know him by the people he surrounds himself by, who he get counseling from.
The white house now surrounds itself with close to 3 dozen Czars who do not answer to anybody, they are special advisors to Obama who do NOT go through any confirmation process by Congress. One Czar for example is Van Jones, the Green Job Czar, who is a board member for the APOLLO Alliance who helped write the stimulus package. He is a self procalimed Communist and has a very radical past. Be proactive and read about him. His own quotes, FACTS, are very disturbing.
Look at Jeff Jones, co-founder of the Weather Underground, he is very involved with Labor Unions and environmental projects in New York. Governor Patterson, NY, has assigned him to various panels and commissions. So, the co-founder of the Weather Underground is working for the Governor of NY. WOW! He is writing on how to get money from the stimulus bill, again which was written by the Apollo Alliance. Remember Bill Ayers and his connections with Obama? If you people think all this stuff is coincidence or nutty people making it up...think again. If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, It's a duck.
These Czars, radicals, and communists plus many more have direct links to President Obama and his administration. Do your homework.
Yes, there will be those of you who will not verify any of these facts and call be black hater, Democrat hater, etc, etc, etc, but those of you who are inteligent enough and love this country need to open your eyes and learn the truth.
This is neither a Left or Right, or Democrat of Republican issue, but an issue of "We the People" are having this country stolen before our very eyes and it is time to wake up on both sides of the aisle.